From: welsberr@orca.tamu.edu (Wesley R. Elsberry) Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian,alt.christnet,talk.origins Subject: Re: Creationism/Evolution Date: 10 Apr 1995 08:53:24 GMT Lines: 283 Message-Id: <3marm4$nj7@news.tamu.edu>In article [Pine.ULT.3.91.950409232631.3483A-100000@chinook.halcyon.com], David B. Greene [daveg@halcyon.halcyon.com] wrote:
I recently gathered some quotes on Darwin and theories of multiplication of species and punctuated equilibria. This seems like a good opportunity to post them.
Charles Darwin, from the First Edition of The Origin of Species:
That natural selection will always act with extreme slowness, I
fully admit. Its action depends on there being places in the polity of
nature, which can be better occupied by some of the inhabitants of the
country undergoing modification of some kind. The existence of such
places will often depend on physical changes, which are generally very
slow, and on the immigration of better adapted forms having been
checked. But the action of natural selection will probably still
oftener depend on some of the inhabitants becoming slowly modified;
the mutual relations After ten thousand generations, species (A) is supposed to have
produced three forms,
(p.164) [I think that the above is quite clear, and settles the
point nicely. - WRE]
On the sudden appearance of whole groups of Allied Species.
The abrupt manner in which whole groups of species suddenly appear
in certain formations, has been urged by several palaeontologists, for
instance, by Agassiz, Pictet, and by none more forcibly than by
Professor Sedgwick, as a fatal objection to the belief in the
transmutation of species. If numerous species, belonging to the same
genera or families, have really started into life all at once, the
fact would be fatal to the theory of descent with slow modification
through natural selection. For the development of a group of forms,
all of which have descended from some one progenitor, must have been
an extremely slow process; and the progenitors must have lived long
ages before their modified descendants. But we continually over-rate
the perfection of the geological record, and falsely infer, because
certain genera or families have not been found beneath a certain
stage, that they did not exist before that stage. We continually
forget how large the world is, compared with the area over which our
geological formations have been carefully examined; we forget I may here recall a remark formerly made, namely that it might
require a long succession of ages to adapt an organism to some new and
peculiar line of life, for instance to fly through the air; but that
when this had been effected, and a few species had thus acquired a
great advantage over other organisms, a comparatively short time would
be necessary to produce many divergent forms, which would be able to
spread rapidly and widely throughout the world.
(pp. 309-310) [Looks like adaptive radiation to me. - WRE]
Dominant species spreading from any region might encounter still
more dominant species, and then their triumphant course, or even their
existence, would cease. We know not at all precisely what are all the
conditions most favourable for the multiplication of new and dominant
species; but we can, I think, clearly see that a number of
individuals, from giving a better chance of the appearance of
favourable variations, and that severe competition with many already
existing forms, would be highly favourable, as would be the power of
spreading into new territories. A certain amount of isolation,
recurring at long intervals of time, would probably be also
favourable, as before explained. One quarter of the world may have
been most favourable for the production of new and dominant species on
the land, and another for those in the waters of the sea. If two great
regions had been for a long period favourably circumstanced in an
equal degree, whenever their inhabitants met, the battle would be
prolonged and severe; and some from one birthplace and some from the
other might be victorious. But in the course of time, the Thus, as it seems to me, the parallel, and, taken in a large sense,
simultaneous, succession of the same forms of life throughout the
world, accords well with the principle of new species having been
formed by dominant species spreading widely and varying; the new
species thus produced being themselves dominant owing to inheritance,
and to having already had some advantage over their parents or over
other species; these again spreading, varying, and producing new
species. The forms which are beaten and which yield their places to
the new and victorious forms, will generally be allied in groups, from
inheriting some inferiority in common; and therefore as new and
improved groups spread throughout the world, old groups will disappear
from the world; and the succession of forms in both ways will
everywhere tend to correspond.
(pp 327-328)
Passing from these difficulties, all the
other great leading facts in palaeontology seem to me simply to follow
on the theory of descent with modification through natural selection.
We can thus understand how it is that new species come in slowly and
successively; how species of different classes do not necessarily
change together, or at the same rate, or in the same degree; yet in
the long run that all undergo modification to some extent. The
extinction of old forms is the almost inevitable consequence of the
production of new forms. We can understand why when a species has once
disappeared it never reappears. Groups of species increase in numbers
slowly, and endure for unequal periods of time; for the process of
modification is necessarily slow, and depends on many complex
contingencies. The dominant species of the larger dominant groups
tend to leave many modified
(p. 342)
This relation between the power and extent of migration of a
species, either at the present time or at some former period under
different physical conditions, and the existence at remote
(pp. 390-391)
I can answer these questions and grave objections only on the
supposition that the geological record is far more imperfect than most
geologists believe. It cannot be objected that there has not been time
sufficient for any amount of organic change; for the lapse of time has
been so great as to be utterly inappreciable by the human intellect.
The number of specimens in all our museums is absolutely as nothing
compared with the countless generations of countless species which
certainly have existed. We should not be able to recognise a species
as the parent of any one or more species if we were to examine them
ever so closely, unless we likewise possessed many of the intermediate
links between their past or parent and present states; and these many
links we could hardly ever expect to discover, owing to the
imperfection of the geological record. Numerous existing doubtful
forms could be named which are probably varieties; but who will
pretend that in future ages so many fossil links will be discovered,
that naturalists will be able to decide, on the common view, whether
or not these doubtful forms are varieties? As long as most of the
links between any two species are unknown, if any one link or
intermediate variety be discovered, it will simply be classed as
another and distinct species. Only a small portion of the world has
been geologically explored. Only organic beings of certain classes can
be preserved in a fossil condition, at least in any great number.
Widely ranging species vary most, and varieties are often at first
local, — both causes rendering the discovery of intermediate
links less likely. Local varieties will not spread into other and
distant regions until they are considerably modified and improved;
(pp. 439-440)
a10, f10, and m10, which, from having diverged in character during the
successive generations, will have come to differ largely, but perhaps
unequally, from each other and from their common parent. If we
suppose the amount of change between each horizontal line in our
diagram to be excessively small, these three forms may still be only
well-marked varieties; or they may have arrived at the doubtful
category of sub-species; but we have only to suppose the steps in the
process of modification to be more numerous or greater in amount, to
convert these three forms into well-defined species: thus the diagram
illustrates the steps by which the small differences distinguishing
varieties are increased into the larger differences distinguishing
species. By continuing the same process for a greater number of
generations (as shown in the diagram in a condensed and simplified
manner), we get eight species, marked by the letters between a14 and m14, all descended
from (A). Thus, as I believe, species are multiplied and genera are
formed.
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